Category: Let's talk
Would you use the handicap button that automatically opens the door for you? And what are your thoughts of sighted people using it? Even if their excuse is "I have a baby in a stroller." Because yesterday sis and I were going to the mall to buy her fiance something. And we were getting ready to enter the mall when I saw this women pushing her baby in a stroller. Now I've seen people do this with regular doors. But this one women just looked around, pushed the handicap button and entered the mall. It's like "Ok, be lazy." I do have a problem with that. It's ment for people who are wheelchaired bount who can't open the door at all and wheel themselves in. But I've seen some people just use regular doors to push their kids in. Or I've seen kids say "Mommy can I push the handicap button?" I told my cousin "Thats not for you to touch, thats for special people who can't open the door by themselves and get through." But her reaction was "You're disabled, why can't we use it?" I am disabled, I use a cane but I can get in and out of a regular door just fine without using the handicap button. Now if I'm with a wheel chair person who can push themselves through, I'll hold the door open. If not, then I'll use the handicap button. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
If a door has one of those buttons, I use it. Like for example, there's a door at school that has one and the buttons right along the wall, so I just press it as I'm passing by, so that way when I get to the door it's already open. I think that's why the woman with the stroller used it because that way it was easier, the door could just swing open, and she could push the stroller on through. Also, I think if they didn't want us to use the buttons, they would of put signs on them saying for wheelchairs only. So yes, I do find them easier then holding a door because most of those doors that have those buttons are pretty heavy suckers. Just my thoughts.
Troy
The heavy doors I can def. understand automatic door openers. At school the doors are super heavy, so that's the only time I use them.
I don't see what the big deal is if anyone uses it. It is there to be used and if a disabled person isn't using I don't see wht the big deal is. No, I am not ashamed to use it. Although I think as a blind person it would be harder to go looking for it as apposed to just opening the door. I think it is also fine when people with a stroller use it. Have you ever tried to push it through and also be a sighted guide. Kind of hard don't you think! I didn't know it was restricted as to who can use it!
I think there's a difference for something for wheel chair users and something exclusively for wheel chair users (or disabled people in general).
See, I think it's very rude to park in a "handicapped only" parking lot. Those who have difficulty walking need to be close to the store (or whatever) and need those places. However I think using a button like this or using the handicapped stall in bath rooms is something anyone can do. No reason why a handicapped person can't wait in line for the stall just like anyone else. Personally I don't use the buttons, if I'm by myself just finding the button turns out as tricky as opening the door so I don't even bother. <grin>
is blind disabled? no. Sometimes they pretent to be because hmmm, they are lazy and want help as if they were babies. Blame me if you want bnut thats true.
Lou
It totally depends how you define the word. Is being blind a hindrance to everyday life. Yes, no question about it. No driver's license, can't go to new places by yourself without orientation (well you could but it'd be extremely difficult) can't go to a foreign country and walk around a city for a week (well again, doing that would be pure crazyness), I mean it's an inconvenience. If you mean disability as in it prevents you from being what you want to be, no it's not (unless you want to be a taxi driver, would not make you very popular). It's as much disability as you want it to be. I also think insisting on being independent, declining all help and never taking up the offer of, say, upgrade to first class or not having to wait in line is also wrong, it's ok to admit there are certain benefits from your disability, the trick is knowing that you're taking advantage of it and not relying on it .. but that's just my point of view.
I use the button all the time. Am I going to hell? No! Are you going to hell for using the button? No! It's a friggin button!
I'll use the button if I have my hands full and I can use my body to push the button rather than trying to shift everything to one hand and open the door with the other as I sometimes do have to at home. I'll also help push the button if a wheelchair user asks me to help. I agree about it not being such an entirely big deal. I'll use a regular stall in the bathroom, but my parents do park in accessible spaces when I'm with them so that I have more clearance to get out of the car. It seems like everybody wants to play dominos when they park, open a car door, slam it into someone's car, that someone gets ticked off and opens the door to say something and slams another car, etc. Except for a few assholes in motorcycles who think crosshatches mean free bike parking, people are very nice when it comes to giving accessible spaces clearance. And you're right, I will use the button for really heavy doors, but other than that, I either open the door myself or just don't make a big bruhaha about the button if I use it or not.
I would have to agree with melodica. My family sometimes uses the handycap parking when I am with them. For the same reason as she said. Sometimes people don't care and park way close! And you know when you are doing some major shopping, it makes it a little hard to cary all the packages and use your cain when you park a ways from the door. And believe me I love to shop so I have plenty of packages! lol! Any more the stores have plenty of these parking places that they are not all taken up, and the the people that need them can use them. I could see if it is a store that only has one or two handycap parking spots. You don't run into that very often! So push on, park on and dam it use the big stalls. Lol!
like the Jenuine song says: "Hell yeah!" for the love of Sisalli, it's just a button! get over it!
I have to agree with all that's been said about the button, Like I said I do use it because it's there, and there's not a sign on it that says for wheel chairs only. I guess we should all quit using elivators as well.
Troy
I don't really care much about the button, as some others said what's the big deal, as for parking, I don't see the problem? Here in the UK for sure, as a blind person, you're intitled to use a parking slots for disabled. I, as a blind person, can't drive, I have to rely on others to drive me, plus, again, as others said, if you have shitloads of shopping or what ever it makes things much easier. It also makes things easier if I'm expecting someone in front of a shop, for example, as those parking slots are usually in front of the stores them selvs, unlike normal parking for which you might have to look for and not easiest thing to find. After all, at least here in the UK, as I said, it's totally legal, so why make so much fuss about it? As much as I don't make big deal about being blind, because I don't see the point of it, if I can use something to my advantage, why not? If I get offered to jump a queue for something, get offered to get something for free, get offered to upgrade to a first class train journey/flight, why the hell not?
I like to be close to the door especially when it's hot. I may sound like an old person, but my body has not been able to tolerate heat and humidity for several years now, even the slightest bit of humidity is hard on it. I have never went to the doctor to see what the deal is, but that is the honest truth. So yeah handycap parking spots are helpful for me in that way.
Troy
I'm not gonna be rude but if you didn't see my post below Troy's first post. I do use it sometimes because I can't lift heavy doors. And there are places that have heavy doors. Did I say I was gonna make it a big deal? um, no. If I were gonna make it a big deal, I would've bashed about it and placed it in the bash board. As for handicap parking, I use it simply because I almost got ran over 4 times in a parking lot and all. My parents want me to be safe in the parking lot simply a parking lot isn't safe lol. Sometimes we don't even use the handicap parking.
this is for lou, you dumb shit, blind equals disabled maybe in the country you're in that's not the law, but here in the u.s. it is. That's why we get separate state i.d. that say disabled on them. Liam, last I heard, you were on the slow short bus to hell, what have you heard? Melodica? please tell us more about how you use your body parts to jam them into little buttons.
Heya Lou this wasn't even in the topic at all. In the US we are categorized as disabled. Have you ever heard of the ADA? I guess not. Try to stay on topic. I wish there was a way you can freeze a topic after people start going off topic.